• BTC net is restructuring over time (Was: China doesn't have some BTC)

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Sat Mar 8 11:11:08 2025
    Hi,

    Some BTC net restructuring seen. This is
    constantly happening. Data center providers
    can afford to have a turn over of their

    infrastructure. Applies also to data centers
    that have a share of BTC nodes. The same
    web site shows me:

    Pv4: -2.6% / IPv6: -7.1% / .onion: +2.4%
    https://bitnodes.io/

    Don't know what the scale is, over one year?
    Also don't know what the implications are for
    the life time of BTC.

    My speculation it will go to 30'000.- USD or
    3'000.- USD. On the trading side via captial
    rotation. On the infrastructure side,

    by simply abandoning BTC nodes. Many hard
    core Bitcoiners ignore that this continuious
    restructuring is part of the BTC infrastructure,

    and if it follows economic principles, it might
    quite well get rid of BTC nodes all together,
    like an automatic garbage collection.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    China doesn't have some BTC. At least
    offcially they only have like 145 BTC nodes.
    Not counting the dark net, country unassigned

    nodes, which has most of the BTC nodes.
    The most official nodes are still split
    between USA and Germany:

    1    n/a    13937 (65.80%)
    2    United States    2073 (9.79%)
    3    Germany    1205 (5.69%)
    https://bitnodes.io/

    So how will USA use the strategic BTC reserve
    to trade with China. Oops, my bad, they don't
    want to trade with Chian, tariffs.

    Ok, got it...

    Bye

    BTW: Bitcoin currently 86'000.- USD. My speculation
    it will go to 30'000.- USD or 3'000.- USD, which
    makes it not a good reserve.

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Every weekend bitcoin is crashing:

    ca. $98'000 Bitcoin Exchange rate (02.02.2025)
    https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/

    Thats the perfect Bitcoin gradual rug pull.
    During weekend the whales are disposing of
    their Bitcoin. During the week, when the

    other stocks markets are open, idiots are
    buying Bitcoin via ETFs.

    LoL

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    They are plannig to apply some averaging:

    On 1 January 2023, most of the provisions of the
    Revised Company Law will come into force. The
    resulting changes in tax law now make it clear
    that the functional currency is decisive for
    tax purposes.

    In addition, it is now stated that the taxable profit
    in Swiss francs is to be determined at the average
    (selling) exchange rate of the relevant financial year
    and the taxable capital in Swiss francs at the (selling)
    exchange rate prevailing on the balance sheet date.

    As a result, balance sheet items translated at historical
    rates in the annual financial statements presented in
    Swiss francs become irrelevant. While there was
    previously a certain degree of discretion in the exchange
    rates used, the exchange rates published by the
    Federal Tax Administration will now be binding.

    https://pestalozzilaw.com/en/insights/news/legal-insights/accounting-and-reporting-foreign-currency-what-are-swiss-tax-implications-foreign-functional-currency/


    So basically you have two exchanges rates one
    for income, and one for substance.

    Mild Shock schrieb:

    Swiss bank or a Swiss National bank is allowed
    to use any currency. You can even file a Tax
    declaration in any currency now.

    They simply don't care anymore about currency.
    I know EUR is possible, maybe BTC is also possible?
    You can use anything that has a market value

    each end of year? See also:

    Corporate Law Reform 2020
    https://pestalozzilaw.com/en/insights/news/legal-insights/accounting-and-reporting-foreign-currency-what-are-swiss-tax-implications-foreign-functional-currency/


    Physfitfreak schrieb:
    What happens to Swiss banks when USA sanctions Dollar and Euro
    transactions with Europe. What if BRICS won't accept you in?





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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Sat Mar 8 11:21:39 2025
    Hi,

    If a state creates a bitcoin reserve. On paper
    the first year swapping some positions in the
    accounting balance will not have some effect

    on the income statement. Over time it will show
    also that devaluation of an asset incures cost.
    Crooks have now a new player in town, that

    helps in the gradual rug pull of BTC, in that
    they can simply sell their BTC to the state.
    This is a master piece of Con Artistry.

    Also a strategic reserve will be just another
    whale, making its move propably only accelerating
    the downward spiral, if they also start selling.

    This will be big big fun to watch!

    Bye

    P.S.: Also countries that have many nodes, or
    more precisely "liquidity" in BTC, can now
    also try to dictate a low price, just for the

    fun of harming the bitcoin reserve. But I am
    not 100% sure whats going on there. If countries
    or unions are introducing some new stable cryptos,

    the countries or unions might opt this as a
    diversification strategy.

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Some BTC net restructuring seen. This is
    constantly happening. Data center providers
    can afford to have a turn over of their

    infrastructure. Applies also to data centers
    that have a share of BTC nodes. The same
    web site shows me:

    Pv4: -2.6% / IPv6: -7.1% / .onion: +2.4%
    https://bitnodes.io/

    Don't know what the scale is, over one year?
    Also don't know what the implications are for
    the life time of BTC.

    My speculation it will go to 30'000.- USD or
    3'000.- USD. On the trading side via captial
    rotation. On the infrastructure side,

    by simply abandoning BTC nodes. Many hard
    core Bitcoiners ignore that this continuious
    restructuring is part of the BTC infrastructure,

    and if it follows economic principles, it might
    quite well get rid of BTC nodes all together,
    like an automatic garbage collection.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    China doesn't have some BTC. At least
    offcially they only have like 145 BTC nodes.
    Not counting the dark net, country unassigned

    nodes, which has most of the BTC nodes.
    The most official nodes are still split
    between USA and Germany:

    1    n/a    13937 (65.80%)
    2    United States    2073 (9.79%)
    3    Germany    1205 (5.69%)
    https://bitnodes.io/

    So how will USA use the strategic BTC reserve
    to trade with China. Oops, my bad, they don't
    want to trade with Chian, tariffs.

    Ok, got it...

    Bye

    BTW: Bitcoin currently 86'000.- USD. My speculation
    it will go to 30'000.- USD or 3'000.- USD, which
    makes it not a good reserve.

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Every weekend bitcoin is crashing:

    ca. $98'000 Bitcoin Exchange rate (02.02.2025)
    https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/

    Thats the perfect Bitcoin gradual rug pull.
    During weekend the whales are disposing of
    their Bitcoin. During the week, when the

    other stocks markets are open, idiots are
    buying Bitcoin via ETFs.

    LoL

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    They are plannig to apply some averaging:

    On 1 January 2023, most of the provisions of the
    Revised Company Law will come into force. The
    resulting changes in tax law now make it clear
    that the functional currency is decisive for
    tax purposes.

    In addition, it is now stated that the taxable profit
    in Swiss francs is to be determined at the average
    (selling) exchange rate of the relevant financial year
    and the taxable capital in Swiss francs at the (selling)
    exchange rate prevailing on the balance sheet date.

    As a result, balance sheet items translated at historical
    rates in the annual financial statements presented in
    Swiss francs become irrelevant. While there was
    previously a certain degree of discretion in the exchange
    rates used, the exchange rates published by the
    Federal Tax Administration will now be binding.

    https://pestalozzilaw.com/en/insights/news/legal-insights/accounting-and-reporting-foreign-currency-what-are-swiss-tax-implications-foreign-functional-currency/


    So basically you have two exchanges rates one
    for income, and one for substance.

    Mild Shock schrieb:

    Swiss bank or a Swiss National bank is allowed
    to use any currency. You can even file a Tax
    declaration in any currency now.

    They simply don't care anymore about currency.
    I know EUR is possible, maybe BTC is also possible?
    You can use anything that has a market value

    each end of year? See also:

    Corporate Law Reform 2020
    https://pestalozzilaw.com/en/insights/news/legal-insights/accounting-and-reporting-foreign-currency-what-are-swiss-tax-implications-foreign-functional-currency/


    Physfitfreak schrieb:
    What happens to Swiss banks when USA sanctions Dollar and Euro
    transactions with Europe. What if BRICS won't accept you in?






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