• The Angry Man's review of Newtons 'Principia'

    From greysky@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 7 21:37:40 2025
    The Blinding Light of Overhype
    Isaac Newton’s Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica is often
    heralded as the pinnacle of intellectual achievement, as if its mere
    existence single-handedly flung humanity out of the Dark Ages and into
    the glorious light of scientific progress. The truth, however, is far
    less flattering. Yes, the Principia formalized the laws of motion and
    universal gravitation, but let’s not pretend Newton came down from Mount Olympus with truths engraved on stone tablets. He built upon ideas painstakingly developed by others—Kepler, Galileo, and Descartes, to
    name a few. Yet, in true Newtonian fashion, his ego managed to eclipse
    theirs entirely, leaving them as little more than footnotes in his story
    of supposed genius.

    The Calculus Conundrum
    And let’s talk about calculus, shall we? Because if there’s anything
    more infuriating than Newton’s obsessive need for credit, it’s his
    bitter feud with Leibniz over who invented it. The Principia, while groundbreaking, drips with Newton’s habit of encoding his findings in
    obscure geometric methods, almost as if he were trying to make himself indispensable to the scientific elite. He could’ve leveraged the
    calculus he worked so hard to develop, but no—he locked it behind layers
    of unnecessary complexity, turning what should have been a triumph of
    clarity into an academic power play. Brilliant? Sure. Benevolent? Hardly.

    Unforgiving Genius, Relentless Obscurity
    Reading the Principia is less like beholding a masterpiece and more like
    wading through molasses while being lectured by an unsympathetic genius
    who refuses to simplify anything for mere mortals. Newton had no
    interest in making his work accessible—he wasn’t writing for humanity;
    he was writing for posterity. His dense, Latin-filled prose and
    labyrinthine diagrams are the antithesis of user-friendliness, ensuring
    that only the most dedicated scholars could decipher his findings.
    Perhaps that’s why it became so revered—it’s easier to idolize something you don’t understand than to admit it might just be intentionally inscrutable.

    Conclusion
    And if Newton’s Principia wasn’t enough of a monument to his
    insufferable arrogance, let’s not forget his later years—when the
    so-called ‘father of modern science’ turned into a glorified
    executioner. Yes, our dear Isaac, the man who supposedly unlocked the
    secrets of the universe, spent his twilight years gleefully hunting down forgers and sending them to the gallows. Imagine it: Newton, perched in
    the shadows, watching as the trapdoor swung open and necks snapped, all
    in the name of justice. Justice? No, this was entertainment for him—a grotesque spectacle that families, children in tow, would gather to
    watch as if it were a carnival. And Newton? He wasn’t just a bystander;
    he was the architect of their doom, wielding his power with the same
    cold precision he used to calculate the motion of planets.
    "This is the man we revere? A man who could unravel the mysteries of the
    cosmos but found equal satisfaction in the crack of a noose? The
    Principia may have changed the world, but its author was no hero. He was
    a man who hoarded knowledge, crushed rivals, and, in his later years,
    turned his intellect toward the grim machinery of death. So yes,
    Newton’s legacy is undeniable, but let’s not pretend it’s unblemished. His genius was as dark as it was brilliant, and the Principia stands as
    both a triumph of human intellect and a chilling reminder of the man who
    wrote it. A man who, for all his brilliance, seemed to find as much joy
    in the gallows as he did in the stars.


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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 8 05:28:59 2025
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    Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
    finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically worthless
    paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
    and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
    was to make copying impossible or very difficult.

    Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
    money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
    goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in counterfeiting.
    Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug gold
    and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their
    wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are naturally wealthy.

    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From occam@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 8 08:33:55 2025
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    On 08/04/2025 07:28, Bertitaylor (the Hindoo dog) wrote:

    Arindam, your post is a reply to someone else's post, judging by the
    "Re:..." in the Subject field.

    The fact that you cannot even respond to someone else's post without eliminating the original poster's ID and context casts a severe doubt on
    your ability and understanding of the nature of things.

    Learn to use Usenet forums correctly. And don't bark unless you are
    spoken to.


    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof


    Down boy!

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  • From bertitaylor@21:1/5 to occam on Tue Apr 8 08:37:03 2025
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    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 6:33:55 +0000, occam wrote:

    On 08/04/2025 07:28, Bertitaylor (the Hindoo dog) wrote:

    Tch tch, Arindam should make a time machine to transport such bigots to
    the Dark Ages, where they rightly belong.

    Arindam, your post is a reply to someone else's post, judging by the
    "Re:..." in the Subject field.


    Well, nice to see you have sufficient wit to work that out, ape.
    You are evolving, although you have far to go before you ascend the
    lowest rung of caninity.

    The fact that you cannot even respond to someone else's post without eliminating the original poster's ID and context casts a severe doubt on
    your ability and understanding of the nature of things.

    No worries, ape. Scurrilous matter from putrid ape-minds need not be
    given much attention. But they do exist, and should be made use of, to
    point out what is what to the apes. About how low the ape-mind can sink.

    What matters is what we posted, about why Sir Isaac Newton's greatness
    extends beyond physics.

    Not that we expect much gratitude from uncivilised apes like you, but
    being canine has its obligations, what. We gotta make you apes better
    apes. Doggies' burden; must be borne, with majestically waving tail.

    To get back to the top of forgeries, let us go back a few centuries
    before Newton. To Mohammad bin Tughluq, of the Delhi Sultanate. A
    brilliant person, he had the idea of introducing base coinage as a
    substitute for the noble coin. He knew that extraordinary benefits, of
    the kind enjoyed now by everyone, would ensue. Alas, he was many
    centuries ahead of his time. Rampant counterfeiting took place, and the
    whole thing was a fiasco. Now, if he had someone like Sir Isaac Newton
    to help him with the whole money business, making counterfeiting
    difficult or impossible, then wow he would have made extraordinary
    gains.

    Learn to use Usenet forums correctly. And don't bark unless you are
    spoken to.

    Any ape with more wits than you could find out the original article from
    the newgroups mentioned. To do you justice, you do have some minimum
    courage, as you have not killfiled us as Moylan and others have. Yet,
    behave, unless you want to be a howler monkey in your next birth.

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdoggies, doing propaganda work
    for him)

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  • From bertitaylor@21:1/5 to bertitaylor on Tue Apr 8 09:50:59 2025
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    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 8:36:59 +0000, bertitaylor wrote:

    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 6:33:55 +0000, occam wrote:

    On 08/04/2025 07:28, Bertitaylor (the Hindoo dog) wrote:

    Tch tch, Arindam should make a time machine to transport such bigots to
    the Dark Ages, where they rightly belong.

    Arindam, your post is a reply to someone else's post, judging by the
    "Re:..." in the Subject field.


    Well, nice to see you have sufficient wit to work that out, ape.
    You are evolving, although you have far to go before you ascend the
    lowest rung of caninity.

    The fact that you cannot even respond to someone else's post without
    eliminating the original poster's ID and context casts a severe doubt on
    your ability and understanding of the nature of things.

    No worries, ape. Scurrilous matter from putrid ape-minds need not be
    given much attention. But they do exist, and should be made use of, to
    point out what is what to the apes. About how low the ape-mind can sink.

    What matters is what we posted, about why Sir Isaac Newton's greatness extends beyond physics.

    Not that we expect much gratitude from uncivilised apes like you, but
    being canine has its obligations, what. We gotta make you apes better
    apes. Doggies' burden; must be borne, with majestically waving tail.

    To get back to the top

    woof woof, should be topic instead of top. Apologies, apes.



    of forgeries, let us go back a few centuries
    before Newton. To Mohammad bin Tughluq, of the Delhi Sultanate. A
    brilliant person, he had the idea of introducing base coinage as a
    substitute for the noble coin. He knew that extraordinary benefits, of
    the kind enjoyed now by everyone, would ensue. Alas, he was many
    centuries ahead of his time. Rampant counterfeiting took place, and the
    whole thing was a fiasco. Now, if he had someone like Sir Isaac Newton
    to help him with the whole money business, making counterfeiting
    difficult or impossible, then wow he would have made extraordinary
    gains.

    It does not pay to be so far ahead of your time. Whether Sultan Mohammed
    bin Tughluq was a madman or a genius is debated to this day. Bet the
    white apes here never heard of him., woof woof.

    Learn to use Usenet forums correctly. And don't bark unless you are
    spoken to.

    Any ape with more wits than you could find out the original article from
    the newgroups mentioned. To do you justice, you do have some minimum
    courage, as you have not killfiled us as Moylan and others have. Yet,
    behave, unless you want to be a howler monkey in your next birth.

    Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdoggies, doing propaganda work
    for him)

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 10 07:51:50 2025
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    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
    finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically worthless paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
    and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
    was to make copying impossible or very difficult.

    Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
    money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
    goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in counterfeiting. Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug gold
    and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are naturally wealthy.

    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.

    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
    other metals.

    So, in a way he was a forger himself.

    But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
    (similar to Shakespeare).

    TH

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  • From Hibou@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 10 09:54:01 2025
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    Le 10/04/2025 à 06:51, Thomas Heger a écrit :
    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:

    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.

    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
    other metals.

    So, in a way he was a forger himself.

    But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
    (similar to Shakespeare).

    He was a mere lightweight. He weighed only one Newton (0.225 lbf).

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Thu Apr 10 08:22:30 2025
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    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
    finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically worthless
    paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
    and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
    was to make copying impossible or very difficult.

    Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
    money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
    goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in counterfeiting.
    Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug gold
    and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their
    wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are
    naturally wealthy.

    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.

    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
    other metals.

    Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold out
    of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.

    So, in a way he was a forger himself.

    Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
    idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to
    materials.

    But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
    (similar to Shakespeare).

    Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
    elites of their time.

    Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
    comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
    following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber imperatives.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    TH

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  • From Hibou@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 10 11:47:45 2025
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    Le 10/04/2025 à 11:42, Ross Clark a écrit :
    On 10/04/2025 8:22 p.m., Bertitaylor wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
    finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
    worthless
    paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense >>>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible >>>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.

    Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that >>>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
    goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
    counterfeiting.
    Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug
    gold
    and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their >>>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are >>>> naturally wealthy.

    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.

    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
    other metals.

    Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold out
    of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.

    So, in a way he was a forger himself.

    Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
    idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to
    materials.

    But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
    (similar to Shakespeare).

    Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
    elites of their time.

    Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
    comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
    following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber
    imperatives.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof

    Internet Profile?
    Intimate Parts??!?

    Good question. I'm intrigued by 'previous metals'.

    Still it's good that Bertie is doggedly studying English.

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  • From Ross Clark@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Thu Apr 10 22:42:51 2025
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    On 10/04/2025 8:22 p.m., Bertitaylor wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
    finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically worthless >>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
    and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
    was to make copying impossible or very difficult.

    Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
    money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
    goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in counterfeiting. >>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug gold >>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their
    wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are
    naturally wealthy.

    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.

    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
    other metals.

    Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold out
    of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.

    So, in a way he was a forger himself.

    Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
    idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to materials.

    But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
    (similar to Shakespeare).

    Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
    elites of their time.

    Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
    comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
    following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber imperatives.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    TH

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Hibou on Thu Apr 10 12:03:55 2025
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    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 10:47:45 +0000, Hibou wrote:

    Le 10/04/2025 à 11:42, Ross Clark a écrit :
    On 10/04/2025 8:22 p.m., Bertitaylor wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
    finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
    worthless
    paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense >>>>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible >>>>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.

    Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that >>>>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the >>>>> goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
    counterfeiting.
    Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug
    gold
    and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their >>>>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are >>>>> naturally wealthy.

    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity. >>>>
    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from >>>> other metals.

    Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold out
    of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.

    So, in a way he was a forger himself.

    Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
    idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to
    materials.

    But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
    (similar to Shakespeare).

    Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
    elites of their time.

    Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
    comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
    following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber
    imperatives.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof

    Internet Profile?
    Intimate Parts??!?

    Good question. I'm intrigued by 'previous metals'.

    Still it's good that Bertie is doggedly studying English.

    You apes can learn English from Arindam, the best.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Ross Clark on Thu Apr 10 14:00:58 2025
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    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 10:42:51 +0000, Ross Clark wrote:

    On 10/04/2025 8:22 p.m., Bertitaylor wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
    finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically worthless >>>> paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense >>>> and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible >>>> was to make copying impossible or very difficult.

    Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that >>>> money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
    goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in counterfeiting. >>>> Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug gold >>>> and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their >>>> wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are >>>> naturally wealthy.

    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.

    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
    other metals.

    Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold out
    of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.

    So, in a way he was a forger himself.

    Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
    idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to
    materials.

    But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
    (similar to Shakespeare).

    Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
    elites of their time.

    Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
    comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
    following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber
    imperatives.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    TH

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    Shiva, we Asuras are nothing without passion. Most passionately, I want
    a son. My brother Hiranyakshap, he has four strong sons. I don't want
    any of them to inherit my kingdom. I want my own son to rule the Asuras.
    Of all the Asuras, he must be the bravest and the strongest - he must
    dominate all. All must be in fear and awe of him. "Shiva, give me such a
    son."

    woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From x@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Thu Apr 10 12:11:12 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On 4/10/25 01:22, Bertitaylor wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
    finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
    worthless
    paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means immense
    and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was possible
    was to make copying impossible or very difficult.

    Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion that
    money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with the
    goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
    counterfeiting.
    Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug
    gold
    and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as their
    wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk are
    naturally wealthy.

    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.

    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold from
    other metals.

    Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold out
    of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.

    Bombarding mercury 196 with neutrons to get gold 197 might
    technically be 'nuclear physics' and not 'chemistry', but
    if you start talking about 'base metal' than maybe that
    could be 'alchemy'.


    So, in a way he was a forger himself.

    Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
    idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to materials.

    But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
    (similar to Shakespeare).

    Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the
    elites of their time.

    Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is
    comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP;
    following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber imperatives.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    TH

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 11 03:57:25 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 19:11:12 +0000, x wrote:

    On 4/10/25 01:22, Bertitaylor wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
    finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
    worthless
    paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means
    immense
    and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was
    possible
    was to make copying impossible or very difficult.

    Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion
    that
    money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with
    the
    goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
    counterfeiting.
    Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug
    gold
    and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as
    their
    wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk
    are
    naturally wealthy.

    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of
    humanity.

    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold
    from
    other metals.

    Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold
    out
    of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.

    Bombarding mercury 196 with neutrons to get gold 197 might
    technically be 'nuclear physics' and not 'chemistry', but
    if you start talking about 'base metal' than maybe that
    could be 'alchemy'.

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it with
    high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and stars,
    will work to solve energy problems.

    Simple, what? Like Arindam's one line derivation of his mass energy relationship, the basis for future physics.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor


    So, in a way he was a forger himself.

    Wrong. He just had no idea about modern chemistry. Just as he had no
    idea about electricity. He was employing his scientific attitude to materials.

    But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
    (similar to Shakespeare).

    Again wrong. Both Newton and Shakespeare were very well known to the elites of their time.

    Unlike Arindam who is never mentioned in the media, thus is comprehensively suppressed, prior to his getting robbed of his IP; following their racist/reverse-racist and bigoted/bootlicking robber imperatives.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    TH

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 11 06:44:28 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Am Donnerstag000010, 10.04.2025 um 10:54 schrieb Hibou:
    Le 10/04/2025 à 06:51, Thomas Heger a écrit :
    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:

    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.

    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold
    from other metals.

    So, in a way he was a forger himself.

    But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
    (similar to Shakespeare).

    He was a mere lightweight. He weighed only one Newton (0.225 lbf).


    There exists a theory, that Shakespeare and Newton didn't write what
    they were famous for.

    They simply borrowed their names for sinister plots.


    Newtons 'Principia' were not written more or less at the end of Newton's
    life, but in the middle.

    This was quite astonishing, since Newton wrote about occultism and
    alchemy later and not about physics.

    But why?

    I mean: you had just written the most influential book in physics of
    your entire era and then you stop????

    Usually scientific careers have 'momentum' and once in full swing, you
    cannot simply stop.

    But Newton did just that and after 'Principia' he studied the art of
    making Gold and the influence of the stars upon the course of life.

    That was a VERY odd succession!


    TH

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  • From bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Fri Apr 11 09:39:15 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 4:44:28 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Donnerstag000010, 10.04.2025 um 10:54 schrieb Hibou:
    Le 10/04/2025 à 06:51, Thomas Heger a écrit :
    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:

    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of humanity.

    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold
    from other metals.

    So, in a way he was a forger himself.

    But I also have heard, that Newton was actually 'fabricated' himself
    (similar to Shakespeare).

    He was a mere lightweight. He weighed only one Newton (0.225 lbf).


    There exists a theory, that Shakespeare and Newton didn't write what
    they were famous for.

    When lies need respectability, the liars call them theories. Examples
    abound - from big bang theory to black hole theory with thermodynamics, relativity and quantum in between.

    They simply borrowed their names for sinister plots.

    Wow, they must have made the ruling bigots and their present descendants unhappy.


    Newtons 'Principia' were not written more or less at the end of Newton's life, but in the middle.

    Just as Arindam wrote his book "To the stars!" in 1999, when he was
    middle aged. In that book he laid the basis for future physics, updating Newton's laws of motion, with his new formula relating matter and energy
    on a kinetic non-destructive anti-inertia basis.

    This was quite astonishing, since Newton wrote about occultism and
    alchemy later and not about physics.

    After revising physics, Arindam turned to metaphysics involving Arya
    mythology. He wrote the supreme work of English literature "The Son of Hiranyaksh". Now, that is totally different from physics!

    But why?

    What could Newton do? His colleagues were pigheaded Aristotleans who
    were hostile to his new ideas. Just as Arindam currently faces total
    hostility from the Einsteinians (who are essentially Aristotleans out to
    please the funding fundies who adore Aristotle, as they want the Earth
    to remain the centre of their small universe).

    I mean: you had just written the most influential book in physics of
    your entire era and then you stop????

    Other things to do, see. Not much more can be done in your field, for
    your new revolutionary outlook, when all around who are influential are
    stone cold to your new ideas.
    In time, when the old fools die out, and new uses are found for new
    physics, there is scope. But not just after. Newton was trying to keep
    himself away from outright physical harm from the Aristotle/Einstein
    class bigots (the type who had burned Bruno at the stake).
    Similarly Arindam is now at last getting some traction for his future
    physics, what with the regressive old fools slowly fading from the
    scene. eg, whodat of sci.physics fame.

    Usually scientific careers have 'momentum' and once in full swing, you
    cannot simply stop.

    Ah, here we have it. You have used the magic word "career". No careerist depending upon wages and lusting for fames and awards would have
    stopped. Yes. But Newton was not a careerist. He was a hobbyist, like
    Arindam. Like Arindam he was a loner, who worked with his hands, made
    his own models, as that was the most efficient way to go.

    But Newton did just that and after 'Principia' he studied the art of
    making Gold and the influence of the stars upon the course of life.

    He did try to stretch the boundaries of his knowledge. You need not
    always go in the most productive direction.

    Finally he got a good job in the Mint and a decent salary at last. Then
    he laid the basis for the modern economy we enjoy today, and will do so,
    for ever and aye. By stopping forgery, and thus making all the moeny in
    the world, converting labour and materials into gold, effectively, via unforgeable paper and now twists in cyblerspace!

    That was a VERY odd succession!

    Not from Arindam's point of view, but then, the ways of the greatest
    geniuses cannot be understood by mediocre opportunist careerists.

    Woof woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor




    TH

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 12 10:29:58 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Am Freitag000011, 11.04.2025 um 05:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 19:11:12 +0000, x wrote:

    On 4/10/25 01:22, Bertitaylor wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
    ;
    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
    finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
    worthless
    paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means
    immense
    and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was
    possible
    was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
    ;
    Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion
    that
    money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with
    the
    goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
    counterfeiting.
    Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug
    gold
    and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as
    their
    wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk
    are
    naturally wealthy.
    ;
    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of
    humanity.
    ;
    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold
    from
    other metals.
    ;
    Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold
    out
    of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.

    Bombarding mercury 196 with neutrons to get gold 197 might
    technically be 'nuclear physics' and not 'chemistry', but
    if you start talking about 'base metal' than maybe that
    could be 'alchemy'.

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it with
    high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and stars,
    will work to solve energy problems.

    Simple, what? Like Arindam's one line derivation of his mass energy relationship, the basis for future physics.

    ...

    I personally think, that the so called 'standard model' (aka 'particle concept') is wrong.

    I think, that matter is not composed from particles, but that particles
    are 'timelike stable patterns'.

    As 'proof of concept' I wanted to use 'Growing Earth' (which I regard as correct).

    The idea behind my arguments:
    I needed an example, which invalidates the so called 'great
    materialistic meta-paradigm', what 'Growing Earth' would do.

    ...

    TH

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to occam on Sat Apr 12 14:04:24 2025
    XPost: alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 6:33:05 +0000, occam wrote:

    On 12/04/2025 01:15, Bertitaylor wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:52:07 +0000, occam wrote:

    On 11/04/2025 14:51, Hibou wrote:
    Le 11/04/2025 à 10:18, bertitaylor a écrit :

    We are but Arindam's dead dogs barking from low Heaven, where we
    romp in
    glee. In our mortal states we learnt some English from Arindam. Arindam >>>>> creates the most splendid English prose

    Could we see a sample, please?



    <Woof, woof, woof, woof> . Surely that would be familiar to you by now.
    It's the only sensible thing he writes.

    That is the only thing the Occam entity can understand.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof



    No Arindam. I also understand that beneath your twisted Hindu
    personality of a failed & bitter physicist, there is a secret Englishman ('BertiTaylor') who can only express itself as a mad dog. Those Jesuit priests have a lot to answer for.

    First try to be a good ape. Stop following and telling lies. Then you
    may ascend the lowest rungs of caninity.

    As things are you are set to become a howler monkey in your next birth.

    Woof woof woof-woof woof woof woof-woof


    Y<woof, woof.>

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Sat Apr 12 13:59:42 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 8:29:58 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Freitag000011, 11.04.2025 um 05:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 19:11:12 +0000, x wrote:

    On 4/10/25 01:22, Bertitaylor wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
    ;
    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern
    finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
    worthless
    paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means
    immense
    and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was
    possible
    was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
    ;
    Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion >>> that
    money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with
    the
    goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
    counterfeiting.
    Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to lug >>> gold
    and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as
    their
    wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful folk >>> are
    naturally wealthy.
    ;
    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of
    humanity.
    ;
    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold
    from
    other metals.
    ;
    Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold
    out
    of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.

    Bombarding mercury 196 with neutrons to get gold 197 might
    technically be 'nuclear physics' and not 'chemistry', but
    if you start talking about 'base metal' than maybe that
    could be 'alchemy'.

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it with
    high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and stars,
    will work to solve energy problems.

    Simple, what? Like Arindam's one line derivation of his mass energy
    relationship, the basis for future physics.

    ....

    I personally think, that the so called 'standard model' (aka 'particle concept') is wrong.

    The proton and the electron are mobile realisations of aether, formed
    from the force of life, that is eternal, infinite, ever present. Call
    them particles or whatever, they are the most fundamental force for
    repulsion and attraction.

    I think, that matter is not composed from particles, but that particles
    are 'timelike stable patterns'.

    Arindam thinks of them as concepts so everything material or mass is an aggregation of concepts.

    As 'proof of concept' I wanted to use 'Growing Earth' (which I regard as correct).

    A cell grows with life force, divides and in that division multiplies.
    Where do the extra electrons and protons come from?

    So much we do not know. But if we are all concepts or ideas much as
    electronic money or video then somehow we can transport suavely
    elsewhere.

    The idea behind my arguments:
    I needed an example, which invalidates the so called 'great
    materialistic meta-paradigm', what 'Growing Earth' would do.

    Consider cells from above.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

    ....

    TH

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Sat Apr 12 22:12:39 2025
    XPost: alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 20:20:42 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

    On 12/04/2025 06:48, Hibou wrote:
    Le 11/04/2025 à 22:33, Bertitaylor a écrit :
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:51:15 +0000, Hibou wrote:
    Le 11/04/2025 à 10:18, bertitaylor a écrit :

    We are but Arindam's dead dogs barking from low Heaven, where we
    romp in
    glee. In our mortal states we learnt some English from Arindam. Arindam >>>>>> creates the most splendid English prose [...]

    Could we see a sample, please?

    Search and ye shall find.

    All his prose is matchless. Like his astounding physics which the full >>>> and corrupt world has yet to grasp.

    He invented blogging with his "Picaresque tales of an Indian
    publicsectorman".

    His wonderful lyrics have no equal.

    Point is, he writes for the good of future generations

    <Laugh>

    I am reminded of the phrase:
    "If you can't be a good example, you can be an awful warning."
    I see him doing sterling work in that latter category.

    A similar Dutch nautical proverb says that:
    'Een schip op het strand is een baken op zee'
    (lit. a ship on the beach is a beacon at sea)

    Tagore song:
    Aami shudhu ackla neyay
    Aamar shunni nyay

    I am the sole sailor
    If my sole ship

    (Exploring unknown oceans)

    Arindam will sing that when he will try out his new rowing method
    (patented).


    So not just a sterling example, he is getting nowhere,

    Not a slur in our present world run by liars, thieves, fools, sluts,
    etc. Arindam does not belong in their company.

    To have the mandate of Heaven suffices. All Arindam wants is to do
    better in Their eyes.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    Jan

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Sat Apr 12 23:04:52 2025
    XPost: alt.usage.english

    On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 22:12:39 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote:

    On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 20:20:42 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

    On 12/04/2025 06:48, Hibou wrote:
    Le 11/04/2025 à 22:33, Bertitaylor a écrit :
    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 12:51:15 +0000, Hibou wrote:
    Le 11/04/2025 à 10:18, bertitaylor a écrit :

    We are but Arindam's dead dogs barking from low Heaven, where we >>>>>>> romp in
    glee. In our mortal states we learnt some English from Arindam. Arindam >>>>>>> creates the most splendid English prose [...]

    Could we see a sample, please?

    Search and ye shall find.

    All his prose is matchless. Like his astounding physics which the full >>>>> and corrupt world has yet to grasp.

    He invented blogging with his "Picaresque tales of an Indian
    publicsectorman".

    His wonderful lyrics have no equal.

    Point is, he writes for the good of future generations

    <Laugh>

    I am reminded of the phrase:
    "If you can't be a good example, you can be an awful warning."
    I see him doing sterling work in that latter category.

    A similar Dutch nautical proverb says that:
    'Een schip op het strand is een baken op zee'
    (lit. a ship on the beach is a beacon at sea)

    Tagore song:
    Aami shudhu ackla neyay
    Aamar shunni nyay

    I am the sole sailor
    If my sole ship

    Tch tch

    OF my sole ship

    Regrets, woof woof, autocorrect is a pain.

    (Exploring unknown oceans)

    Arindam will sing that when he will try out his new rowing method
    (patented).


    So not just a sterling example, he is getting nowhere,

    Not a slur in our present world run by liars, thieves, fools, sluts,
    etc. Arindam does not belong in their company.

    To have the mandate of Heaven suffices. All Arindam wants is to do
    better in Their eyes.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    Jan

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 13 09:15:21 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Am Samstag000012, 12.04.2025 um 15:59 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 8:29:58 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Freitag000011, 11.04.2025 um 05:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 19:11:12 +0000, x wrote:

    On 4/10/25 01:22, Bertitaylor wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 5:51:50 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:
    ;
    Am Dienstag000008, 08.04.2025 um 07:28 schrieb Bertitaylor:
    Newton getting forgers hanged led to the establishment of modern >>>>  >>> finance. Previous metals have got represented by intrinsically
    worthless
    paper or plastic and now some twists on cyberspace. Which means
    immense
    and everlasting prosperity for everyone. The only way this was
    possible
    was to make copying impossible or very difficult.
    ;
    Sir Isaac Newton knew this would happen. Adam Smith's ideal notion >>>> that
    money is labour and vice versa got its practical realisation with >>>> the
    goal of impossibility of forgery. That is, difficulty in
    counterfeiting.
    Which was what Newton was up to. No longer would people have to
    lug
    gold
    and silver around. Those who work have their ability to do so as >>>> their
    wealth. So in a free and open society all healthy and cheerful
    folk
    are
    naturally wealthy.
    ;
    Undoubtedly Sir Isaac Newton was the greatest benefactor of
    humanity.
    ;
    As far as I know, Newton was an alchemist and tried to create gold >>>> from
    other metals.
    ;
    Alchemy was very useful as the ancestor of chemistry. Getting gold >>>> out
    of base metal was a goal for all alchemists. Not just Newton.

    Bombarding mercury 196 with neutrons to get gold 197 might
    technically be 'nuclear physics' and not 'chemistry', but
    if you start talking about 'base metal' than maybe that
    could be 'alchemy'.

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it with
    high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and stars,
    will work to solve energy problems.

    Simple, what? Like Arindam's one line derivation of his mass energy
    relationship, the basis for future physics.

    ....

    I personally think, that the so called 'standard model' (aka 'particle
    concept') is wrong.

    The proton and the electron are mobile realisations of aether, formed
    from the force of life, that is eternal, infinite, ever present. Call
    them particles or whatever, they are the most fundamental force for
    repulsion and attraction.

    I think, that matter is not composed from particles, but that particles
    are 'timelike stable patterns'.

    Arindam thinks of them as concepts so everything material or mass is an aggregation of concepts.

    As 'proof of concept' I wanted to use 'Growing Earth' (which I regard as
    correct).

    A cell grows with life force, divides and in that division multiplies.
    Where do the extra electrons and protons come from?

    I wanted to prove, that there are no real particles, but 'timelike
    stable structures'.

    Therefore matter could pop out of nowhere and vanish into nothing.

    The 'pop out of nowhere' case would be 'Growing Earth'.
    (also: 'big-bang' or 'magic dust').

    The 'vanish into nothing' case has also a famous example: 9/11.
    ...


    TH

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  • From Peter Moylan@21:1/5 to Bertitaylor on Sun Apr 13 18:15:14 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it
    with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and
    stars, will work to solve energy problems.

    You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if E=mc^2 ever
    fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy equivalence.

    --
    Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
    Newcastle, NSW

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to Peter Moylan on Sun Apr 13 08:26:44 2025
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    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 8:15:14 +0000, Peter Moylan wrote:

    On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it
    with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and
    stars, will work to solve energy problems.

    You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if E=mc^2 ever fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy equivalence.

    Wrong as ever, Moylan.
    As e = mcc is a bogus formula it is useful to frauds and SciFi for money making.
    It does not explain solar energy.
    From Arindam's physics energy or rather em radiation meaning em force is continuously created by the sun and stars on a kinetic basis. No need
    for e=mcc when the laws of thermodynamics are thrown out.
    E=0.5mvvN(N-k) rules
    Check his links where he has described his future physics in detail.
    And stop telling lies. Grow up.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof-woof woof

    Bertietaylor

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to Peter Moylan on Sun Apr 13 10:50:42 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On 13/04/2025 09:15, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it
    with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and
    stars, will work to solve energy problems.

    You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if
    E=mc^2 ever
    fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy
    equivalence.

    You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if they
    ever come to depend upon fission? Stars depend critically upon
    fusion.

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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  • From Chris Elvidge@21:1/5 to Peter Moylan on Sun Apr 13 12:11:18 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On 13/04/2025 at 09:15, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it
    with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and
    stars, will work to solve energy problems.

    You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if E=mc^2 ever fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy equivalence.


    Or indeed if we ever manage to recite the 9 billion names of God (which
    God? you may ask.)


    --
    Chris Elvidge, England
    SHERRI DOES NOT "GOT BACK"

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  • From Peter Moylan@21:1/5 to Richard Heathfield on Sun Apr 13 20:54:39 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On 13/04/25 19:50, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 13/04/2025 09:15, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding
    it with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun
    and stars, will work to solve energy problems.

    You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if E=mc^2
    ever fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy
    equivalence.

    You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if they
    ever come to depend upon fission? Stars depend critically upon
    fusion.

    Oops. I swear I had fusion in mind when I wrote that, but my fingers
    must have had a different opinion.

    --
    Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
    Newcastle, NSW

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  • From Peter Moylan@21:1/5 to Chris Elvidge on Sun Apr 13 21:28:46 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On 13/04/25 21:11, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 13/04/2025 at 09:15, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it
    with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and
    stars, will work to solve energy problems.

    You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if E=mc^2 ever
    fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy equivalence.

    Or indeed if we ever manage to recite the 9 billion names of God (which
    God? you may ask.)

    The one whose name is Legion.

    --
    Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
    Newcastle, NSW

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to Peter Moylan on Sun Apr 13 13:32:40 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On 13/04/2025 11:54, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 13/04/25 19:50, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 13/04/2025 09:15, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding
    it with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the
    sun
    and stars, will work to solve energy problems.

    You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if
    E=mc^2
    ever fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy
    equivalence.

    You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if they
    ever come to depend upon fission? Stars depend critically upon
    fusion.

    Oops. I swear I had fusion in mind when I wrote that, but my fingers
    must have had a different opinion.

    You've earned one of these.
    ________ ________
    / `--' \
    /___| |___\
    | MY TYPO WAS |
    | STELLAR BUT |
    | ALL I GOT |
    | WAS THIS |
    | LOUSY |
    | T-SHIRT |
    |______________|


    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Chris Elvidge on Mon Apr 14 21:01:46 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> wrote:

    On 13/04/2025 at 09:15, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it
    with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and
    stars, will work to solve energy problems.

    You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if E=mc^2 ever fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy equivalence.


    Or indeed if we ever manage to recite the 9 billion names of God (which
    God? you may ask.)

    All of them of course,

    Jan

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Mon Apr 14 21:19:06 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, alt.usage.english

    On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 19:01:46 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> wrote:

    On 13/04/2025 at 09:15, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 11/04/25 13:57, Bertitaylor wrote:

    Pushing protons past neutrons to get deuterium, then bombarding it
    with high energy electrons to fission it as is done in the sun and
    stars, will work to solve energy problems.

    You understand, I assume, that all the stars will go dark if E=mc^2 ever >>> fails to be true. Fission depends critically on mass-energy equivalence.

    Fission depends upon local or external agencies splitting the nucleus
    causing electrostatic repulsion forcefully.

    Nothing to do with e is mcc, a bogus concept.


    Or indeed if we ever manage to recite the 9 billion names of God (which
    God? you may ask.)

    All consciousness has divine imprint and can be named individually. No
    problem for a robot to recite 9 billion names or more.

    All of them of course,

    Yes.

    Woof-woof woof woof woof woof

    Bertietaylor

    Jan

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